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On Erdős problem #648\# 648

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We establish the order of the maximum length of an increasing sequence, bounded by nn, in which the largest prime divisor of the elements form a decreasing sequence.

In this short article, we study a problem posed by Erdős 30 years ago in a collection of open problems [3]. It was a recent problem at that point, just one year before his death, making it one of Erdős’s last problems. The problem is listed in the online database of Erdős problems as problem #648 (as of the time of publication), https://www.erdosproblems.com/648. In [3], it was asked to estimate, as well as one can, the function g(n)g(n) of the longest sequence of integers bounded by nn for which the smaller integers have a larger largest prime divisor.

Formally, g(n)g(n) is the largest tt for which there exists integers 0<a1<a2<a3<…<at≤n0 < a_1 < a_2 < a_3 < \ldots< a_t \le n for which P(ai)>P(ai+1)P(a_i) > P(a_{i+1}) where P(m)=max⁡{p:p prime and p∣m}P(m) = \max\{p: p\text{ prime and }p \mid m\} denotes the largest prime divisor of mm. Thus, with the function PP representing the largest prime factor of an integer, the question is to determine the longest sequence on which the function PP is decreasing. Note that if the question were to ask for PP to be increasing, the answer would be trivially the number of primes bounded by nn, π(n)\pi(n). Results on similar questions concerning sequences where Euler’s totient function is monotone can be found in e.g. [4, 5].

We will prove that g(n)g(n) is of the order nlog⁡n\sqrt{\frac{n}{\log n}}, i.e., g(n)=Θ((nlog⁡n)1/2)g(n) = \Theta\left(\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2}\right) or g(n)≍(nlog⁡n)1/2g(n) \asymp\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2}.

Note that we use Landau notation: for two positive functions ff and gg, we write f=O(g)f = O(g) and f=o(g)f = o(g) if there is a constant M>0M > 0 resp. for every constant M>0M > 0, f(x)<Mf(x)f(x) < Mf(x) holds for xx sufficiently large. We write f=Θ(g)f = \Theta(g) if both f=O(g)f = O(g) and g=O(f)g = O(f) are true. One may also prefer f≪gf \ll g (equivalently g≫fg \gg f) and f≍gf \asymp g to denote resp. f=O(g)f = O(g) and f=Θ(g)f = \Theta(g). Finally, f∼gf \sim g is the same as (1−o(1))g<f<(1+o(1))g(1-o(1))g < f < (1+o(1))g.

In the proof, we establish the complementary bounds: g(n)≪(nlog⁡n)1/2g(n) \ll\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2} and g(n)≫(nlog⁡n)1/2g(n) \gg\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2}.

Theorem 1. g(n)=Θ((n/log⁡n)1/2)g(n) = \Theta((n/\log n)^{1/2}).

Proof upper bound: By definition of divisibility, aia_i equals q(ai)P(ai)q(a_i)P(a_i) for an integer q(ai)q(a_i). Here q(ai)=aiP(ai)<ai+1P(ai+1)=q(ai+1)q(a_i) = \frac{a_i}{P(a_i)} < \frac{a_{i+1}}{P(a_{i+1})} = q(a_{i+1}) for every 1≤i≤t−11 \le i \le t - 1 and thus those integers are distinct.

As q(ai)P(ai)=ai≤nq(a_i)P(a_i) = a_i \le n, it follows that for each ii, at least one of the following holds:

q(ai)≤(2nlog⁡n)1/2orP(ai)≤(nlog⁡n2)1/2.q(a_i) \le\left(\frac{2n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2} \qquad\text{or}\qquad P(a_i) \le\left(\frac{n\log n}{2}\right)^{1/2}.

Since the q(ai)q(a_i) are distinct, there are at most (2nlog⁡n)1/2\left(\frac{2n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2} cases in which the first situation occurs.

Since the P(ai)P(a_i) are distinct primes, by the prime number theorem, the second situation occurs at most π((nlog⁡n2)1/2)∼(nlog⁡n2)1/212log⁡n=2(nlog⁡n)1/2\pi\left(\left(\frac{n\log n}{2}\right)^{1/2}\right) \sim\frac{\left(\frac{n\log n}{2}\right)^{1/2}}{\frac{1}{2}\log n} = \sqrt{2}\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2} many times. Thus g(n)≤22(nlog⁡n)1/2g(n) \le2\sqrt{2}\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2}.

Proof lower bound: We construct an admissible sequence of aia_i’s with length (2−o(1))n/log⁡n(2-o(1))\sqrt{n/\log n} inductively. Let p1>p2>⋯>prp_1 > p_2 > \cdots> p_r be the primes in the interval (n1/2,(nlog⁡n)1/2)\left(n^{1/2},(n\log n)^{1/2}\right). Here

r∼nlog⁡(n)0.5log⁡(n)=2n/log⁡n.r \sim\frac{\sqrt{n\log(n)}}{0.5\log(n)}=2\sqrt{n/\log n}.

Let a1=p1a_1=p_1 and thus q1=1q_1=1. for every i≥2i\ge2, let qiq_i be the smallest integer for which qipi>qi−1pi−1q_ip_i > q_{i-1}p_{i-1} and let ai=qipia_i=q_ip_i. In particular, we have ai=qipi<qi−1pi−1+pi=ai−1+pia_i=q_ip_i < q_{i-1}p_{i-1}+p_i=a_{i-1}+p_i, and thus by induction ai≤∑j=1ipja_i\le\sum_{j=1}^i p_j.

By using a quantitative form of the prime number theorem [1], and integration by parts, we find that

π(x)=xlog⁡x(1+1log⁡x+O(1)log⁡2x)\pi(x)=\frac{x}{\log x}\left(1+\frac{1}{\log x}+\frac{O(1)}{\log^2 x}\right)
∑p≤xp=xπ(x)−∑y≤x−1π(y)=x22log⁡x+x24(log⁡x)2+O(x2(log⁡x)3).\sum_{p\le x}p=x\pi(x)-\sum_{y\le x-1}\pi(y)=\frac{x^2}{2\log x}+\frac{x^2}{4(\log x)^2}+O\left(\frac{x^2}{(\log x)^3}\right).

Set x=(nlog⁡n)1/2x=(n\log n)^{1/2}. The first main term is then

x22log⁡x=nlog⁡nlog⁡(nlog⁡n)=n1+log⁡log⁡n/log⁡n=n(1−log⁡log⁡nlog⁡n+O((log⁡log⁡n)2(log⁡n)2)).\frac{x^2}{2\log x}=\frac{n\log n}{\log(n\log n)}=\frac{n}{1+\log\log n/\log n}=n\left(1-\frac{\log\log n}{\log n}+O\left(\frac{(\log\log n)^2}{(\log n)^2}\right)\right).

The second term is nlog⁡n(log⁡(nlog⁡n))2∼nlog⁡n\frac{n\log n}{(\log(n\log n))^2}\sim\frac{n}{\log n}. The other error terms are smaller, so it follows that

∑p≤(nlog⁡n)1/2p=n(1−log⁡log⁡nlog⁡n+O(1log⁡n)).\sum_{p\le(n\log n)^{1/2}}p=n\left(1-\frac{\log\log n}{\log n}+O\left(\frac{1}{\log n}\right)\right).

The latter is smaller than nn for large values of nn.

Since pi>n≥aip_i>\sqrt{n}\ge\sqrt{a_i}, P(ai)=piP(a_i)=p_i being the unique prime divisor larger than ai\sqrt{a_i}. Thus we have constructed a valid sequence of length r∼2n/log⁡nr\sim2\sqrt{n/\log n}.

Remark 2. The precise form is likely g(n)=(c+o(1))n/log⁡ng(n)=(c+o(1))\sqrt{n/\log n} for a constant 2≤c≤222\le c\le2\sqrt{2}, since both bounds are easily seen to contain estimates that won’t (asymptotically) hold. The latter is similar to the follow-up question #912 from [2], where for a different number-theoretic quantity (h(n)h(n), the number of different exponents in the prime factorisation of n!n!) the exact asymptotics are asked once the correct order was determined.

Note that c<22c<2\sqrt{2} can be expected, since asymptotical sharpness of the upper bound would imply that a near-central term bb of the sequence would be the product of an integer q∼(2nlog⁡n)1/2q\sim\left(\frac{2n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2} and a prime p>(nlog⁡n2)1/2p>\left(\frac{n\log n}{2}\right)^{1/2}, which is thus of the form (1−o(1))n(1-o(1))n. Furthermore, there should be (2−o(1))(nlog⁡n)1/2(\sqrt{2}-o(1))\left(\frac{n}{\log n}\right)^{1/2} integers in the interval (b,n)(b,n), whose largest primes are bounded by (nlog⁡n2)1/2\left(\frac{n\log n}{2}\right)^{1/2} and in decreasing order.

Since in the proof of the lower bound, ai−ai−1a_i-a_{i-1} can be very different from pip_i, we expect cc to be larger than 22. It has been checked for large nn that g(n)>2n/log⁡ng(n)>2\sqrt{n/\log n} can be concluded from the given approach. The exact values are even much better, as one can expect that P(ai)P(a_i) do not have to be the primes in order. See https://github.com/StijnCambie/ErdosProblems/tree/main/EP648. Determining the exact value of cc (if existing) seems to be very hard.

Acknowledgement

The author thanks the referees for careful reading, suggestions on related work and references and remarks to improve the readability of the paper. We thank Thomas Bloom for his work with https://www.erdosproblems.com and for sharing a copy of [3].

References

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